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	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-916</guid>
		<description>did you know that there are many many blogs called "frogblog"?

http://keroppakerokero.splinder.com/
http://frogblog.flashesofpanic.com/
http://yoneyuta.txt-nifty.com/blog/
http://blog.frogbody.com/frogblog/
http://frogblog.journalspace.com/
http://www.jeremy-henderson.co.uk/wp-frogblog/
http://www.9thcircle.co.uk/frogblog/frogblog.html
http://frog.badbrain.net/weblog/
http://spaces.msn.com/members/frogblog-sa/
http://anzairox.blogspot.com/
http://www.flerdle.net/frogstar/
http://spaces.msn.com/members/frogblog/
http://jsopper.blogspot.com/
http://frogicide.blogspot.com/

are just the recently updated ones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did you know that there are many many blogs called &#8220;frogblog&#8221;?</p>
<p><a href="http://keroppakerokero.splinder.com/" >http://keroppakerokero.splinder.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://frogblog.flashesofpanic.com/" >http://frogblog.flashesofpanic.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://yoneyuta.txt-nifty.com/blog/" >http://yoneyuta.txt-nifty.com/blog/</a><br />
<a href="http://blog.frogbody.com/frogblog/" >http://blog.frogbody.com/frogblog/</a><br />
<a href="http://frogblog.journalspace.com/" >http://frogblog.journalspace.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.jeremy-henderson.co.uk/wp-frogblog/" >http://www.jeremy-henderson.co.uk/wp-frogblog/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.9thcircle.co.uk/frogblog/frogblog.html" >http://www.9thcircle.co.uk/frogblog/frogblog.html</a><br />
<a href="http://frog.badbrain.net/weblog/" >http://frog.badbrain.net/weblog/</a><br />
<a href="http://spaces.msn.com/members/frogblog-sa/" >http://spaces.msn.com/members/frogblog-sa/</a><br />
<a href="http://anzairox.blogspot.com/" >http://anzairox.blogspot.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.flerdle.net/frogstar/" >http://www.flerdle.net/frogstar/</a><br />
<a href="http://spaces.msn.com/members/frogblog/" >http://spaces.msn.com/members/frogblog/</a><br />
<a href="http://jsopper.blogspot.com/" >http://jsopper.blogspot.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://frogicide.blogspot.com/" >http://frogicide.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>are just the recently updated ones</p>
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		<title>By: span(ner in the works)</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>span(ner in the works)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 04:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-268</guid>
		<description>most parties have a few aligned but not official bloggers, eg kakariki and resistant soy have been holding up the end for the Greens until now (although they still do of course); Just Left, Betrand Bargolias, Philosophically Made, (some of) About Town, NZ Political Comments, etc for Labour; myself, Joe Hendren and Victor Billot for the Alliance; PC for the Libz; i could go on and on - most nz pols bloggers seem to have some kind of party affiliation.  

i think what DPF points out is very true - many parties would not cope well with the freedom of message inherent in giving someone (or some group) control of a blog - think of the factionalism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most parties have a few aligned but not official bloggers, eg kakariki and resistant soy have been holding up the end for the Greens until now (although they still do of course); Just Left, Betrand Bargolias, Philosophically Made, (some of) About Town, NZ Political Comments, etc for Labour; myself, Joe Hendren and Victor Billot for the Alliance; PC for the Libz; i could go on and on - most nz pols bloggers seem to have some kind of party affiliation.  </p>
<p>i think what DPF points out is very true - many parties would not cope well with the freedom of message inherent in giving someone (or some group) control of a blog - think of the factionalism!</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Pistorius</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Pistorius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 03:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-267</guid>
		<description>Don't forget the &lt;a href="http://www.libertarianz.org.nz" rel="nofollow"&gt;Libertarianz&lt;/a&gt; blog by Peter Cresswell: &lt;a href="http://pc.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://pc.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;

Put it down to prejudice if you want, but it has rocketed to the top of my "Must Read" list. :)

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the <a href="http://www.libertarianz.org.nz" >Libertarianz</a> blog by Peter Cresswell: <a href="http://pc.blogspot.com/" >http://pc.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>Put it down to prejudice if you want, but it has rocketed to the top of my &#8220;Must Read&#8221; list. <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 03:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-266</guid>
		<description>Ahhh, the old culture wars within the National Party. I, for one, shall be cheering the liberal wing on in that particular fight...
 
Oh, and no, we don't want to ban cars. We just want to make driving them less attractive than taking the bus or train... Anyway, don't you have some eyebrow billboards to erect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, the old culture wars within the National Party. I, for one, shall be cheering the liberal wing on in that particular fight&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, and no, we don&#8217;t want to ban cars. We just want to make driving them less attractive than taking the bus or train&#8230; Anyway, don&#8217;t you have some eyebrow billboards to erect?</p>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 03:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-265</guid>
		<description>God that was a quick comment.  It may be Friday afternoon but don't you have some cars to ban :-)

I won't name names but lets just say some of my comments on the civil unions bill did not find favour universally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God that was a quick comment.  It may be Friday afternoon but don&#8217;t you have some cars to ban <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t name names but lets just say some of my comments on the civil unions bill did not find favour universally.</p>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 03:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-264</guid>
		<description>National Party people who've tried to shut your blog down? Do name names :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National Party people who&#8217;ve tried to shut your blog down? Do name names <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 03:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-263</guid>
		<description>A National blog would be excellent.  But I think it is unlikely.  Hell there are enough people in National who have even tried to close down my personal blog, that they would die at the thought of an official blog.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A National blog would be excellent.  But I think it is unlikely.  Hell there are enough people in National who have even tried to close down my personal blog, that they would die at the thought of an official blog.</p>
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		<title>By: frog</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-260</guid>
		<description>Well, the risks I was envisaging mainly stem from the immediacy required with blogging. 

In usual circumstances, something written for public release by a political party would go through lots of checks: usually with the party's media unit, a researcher and the responsible MP. The speed required with blogging doesn't allow for such checking (if what you're talking about is emulating the type of "heavy volume blogs" that David Farrar, Rodney Hide, No Right Turn, and NZ Pundit do), and thus there is a greater risk that the person blogging on that particular day might say something embarrassing/damaging to the party. This of course can be mitigated by having someone (or several people) not prone to embarrassing outbursts in charge of the blog. (And when I say "embarrassing outbursts", I'm mainly thinking of people prone to offering quick-fire opinions without getting their facts straight, and thus saying things which are potentially defamatory.)

Also, the blog will sometimes stray into areas where the party might not have a position or where the party's position isn't clear. So, opinions that some MPs might not agree with are inevitably going to be expressed. A party's caucus has to be comfortable with this for a blog to work, which is unusual: MPs would usually see things written by their staff before it goes out into the public. With blogs, this is impractical, and indeed would be undesirable, as the bloggers have to develop their own voices, and thus can't be overly "managed" by the MPs in the party. 

I don't think this is so much of an issue for us or Act: debate within parties over issues is healthy, but I suspect parties which have top-heavy "message management" - I'm thinking here National, Labour, and NZ First - would be reluctant to give up central control of what the party is saying... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the risks I was envisaging mainly stem from the immediacy required with blogging. </p>
<p>In usual circumstances, something written for public release by a political party would go through lots of checks: usually with the party&#8217;s media unit, a researcher and the responsible MP. The speed required with blogging doesn&#8217;t allow for such checking (if what you&#8217;re talking about is emulating the type of &#8220;heavy volume blogs&#8221; that David Farrar, Rodney Hide, No Right Turn, and NZ Pundit do), and thus there is a greater risk that the person blogging on that particular day might say something embarrassing/damaging to the party. This of course can be mitigated by having someone (or several people) not prone to embarrassing outbursts in charge of the blog. (And when I say &#8220;embarrassing outbursts&#8221;, I&#8217;m mainly thinking of people prone to offering quick-fire opinions without getting their facts straight, and thus saying things which are potentially defamatory.)</p>
<p>Also, the blog will sometimes stray into areas where the party might not have a position or where the party&#8217;s position isn&#8217;t clear. So, opinions that some MPs might not agree with are inevitably going to be expressed. A party&#8217;s caucus has to be comfortable with this for a blog to work, which is unusual: MPs would usually see things written by their staff before it goes out into the public. With blogs, this is impractical, and indeed would be undesirable, as the bloggers have to develop their own voices, and thus can&#8217;t be overly &#8220;managed&#8221; by the MPs in the party. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this is so much of an issue for us or Act: debate within parties over issues is healthy, but I suspect parties which have top-heavy &#8220;message management&#8221; - I&#8217;m thinking here National, Labour, and NZ First - would be reluctant to give up central control of what the party is saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/04/29/blog-wars/#comment-259</guid>
		<description>I'd still quite like to see a Labour blog... and would not mind seeing you expand your view about the risks of blogging. It seems to me they are win win, so long as the comments remain useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d still quite like to see a Labour blog&#8230; and would not mind seeing you expand your view about the risks of blogging. It seems to me they are win win, so long as the comments remain useful.</p>
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