Comments on: Brash on state assets http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/ hopping along the corridors of power Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:59:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: ZenTiger http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3504 ZenTiger Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:50:21 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3504 And they say power does not corrupt absolutely.... And they say power does not corrupt absolutely….

]]> By: greenboy http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3466 greenboy Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:32:22 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3466 Indeed. Further to that they also voted against the 03 and 04 budgets, while they abstained on the 05 budget as a sign of goodwill, showing a willingness to work with Labour post-election. Indeed. Further to that they also voted against the 03 and 04 budgets, while they abstained on the 05 budget as a sign of goodwill, showing a willingness to work with Labour post-election.

]]> By: fastbike http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3450 fastbike Mon, 15 Aug 2005 05:20:23 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3450 Bernard wrote "The Greens generally support Labour on supply, so thats close enough for me." It's Jim boy and Peter Dunhill who support Labour on supply. Look at the voting record. The Greens did not give confidence and supply to Labour in 2002. More confusion on the right ;-) Bernard wrote “The Greens generally support Labour on supply, so thats close enough for me.”

It’s Jim boy and Peter Dunhill who support Labour on supply.
Look at the voting record. The Greens did not give confidence and supply to Labour in 2002.

More confusion on the right ;-)

]]> By: Bernard Woolley http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3441 Bernard Woolley Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:37:01 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3441 Ghet - I'm not defending Brash, I think he handled it poorly too. The format of debate actually makes it very difficult to refute any allegations - generally a refuation takes longer to respond than the allegation itself, and this a problem that all parties will face. I just want to make the point that neither of the major parties are clean when it comes to asset sales - especially because it most recently occured under our current Government. Ghet - I’m not defending Brash, I think he handled it poorly too. The format of debate actually makes it very difficult to refute any allegations - generally a refuation takes longer to respond than the allegation itself, and this a problem that all parties will face.

I just want to make the point that neither of the major parties are clean when it comes to asset sales - especially because it most recently occured under our current Government.

]]> By: Ghet http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3440 Ghet Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:24:35 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3440 Possibly that wasn't mentioned as, despite it being true, it wasn't relevant to the topic. No matter what you think of asset sales, that moment was the one in which Don lost the debate. The audience laughed at him, which was nothing to do with the policy, but with him being forced to contradict himself so quickly. Possibly that wasn’t mentioned as, despite it being true, it wasn’t relevant to the topic. No matter what you think of asset sales, that moment was the one in which Don lost the debate. The audience laughed at him, which was nothing to do with the policy, but with him being forced to contradict himself so quickly.

]]> By: Bernard Woolley http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3439 Bernard Woolley Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:23:02 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3439 I'm sorry, I guess seeing Jeanette so close to Helen confused me :) The Greens generally support Labour on supply, so thats close enough for me. I would be interested to hear the Green view on Cullens State Asset dealings - is this something they support or disapproved of? I’m sorry, I guess seeing Jeanette so close to Helen confused me :)
The Greens generally support Labour on supply, so thats close enough for me. I would be interested to hear the Green view on Cullens State Asset dealings - is this something they support or disapproved of?

]]> By: stuey http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3438 stuey Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:16:50 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3438 We currently don't have a Labour-Green government, we have a Labour-Jim's Progressive-United No Future government. Maybe if we had a Labour-Green government then Labour would not have made so many dodgy decisions. We currently don’t have a Labour-Green government, we have a Labour-Jim’s Progressive-United No Future government.

Maybe if we had a Labour-Green government then Labour would not have made so many dodgy decisions.

]]> By: Bernard Woolley http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3437 Bernard Woolley Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:28:06 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3437 Funny that you forget to mention that under the current Labour/Green government, that Michael Cullen granted both Transpower AND Airways Corporation the right to sell off (technically a lease, but because we can't see the terms of the lease we don't know how long it is for - if it is for the lifetime of the asset then it is effectively a sale) the High Voltage DC link from Benmore to Haywards, including the Cook Strait cable, and the assets that manage one of the largest airspace coverages in the world. Michael Cullen went so far as to ask permission from the US Ambassador in Wellington as to whether the deals were legal in 2002 (which they were). The deals have now been banned by the US Inland Revenue as they were associated with the collapse of Enron. Opps. <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3342241a13,00.html" rel="nofollow">Transpower grid deal prompts tougher tax rules</a> (Stuff). And in the past couple of months, Cullen has now flip-flopped on the issue of leasing deals and is now telling SOE's not to get into these leasing deals. Hmmm. Smells like our current Labour/Green Government is just as guilty of Asset Sales as anyone else! Funny that you forget to mention that under the current Labour/Green government, that Michael Cullen granted both Transpower AND Airways Corporation the right to sell off (technically a lease, but because we can’t see the terms of the lease we don’t know how long it is for - if it is for the lifetime of the asset then it is effectively a sale) the High Voltage DC link from Benmore to Haywards, including the Cook Strait cable, and the assets that manage one of the largest airspace coverages in the world. Michael Cullen went so far as to ask permission from the US Ambassador in Wellington as to whether the deals were legal in 2002 (which they were). The deals have now been banned by the US Inland Revenue as they were associated with the collapse of Enron. Opps. Transpower grid deal prompts tougher tax rules (Stuff). And in the past couple of months, Cullen has now flip-flopped on the issue of leasing deals and is now telling SOE’s not to get into these leasing deals. Hmmm. Smells like our current Labour/Green Government is just as guilty of Asset Sales as anyone else!

]]> By: Jordan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3433 Jordan Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:46:35 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/15/brash-on-state-assets/#comment-3433 At least he acknowledges what some of his supporters fail to - that Helen Clark gets it right, a lot. :-) At least he acknowledges what some of his supporters fail to - that Helen Clark gets it right, a lot. :-)

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