Comments on: Oh dear http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/ hopping along the corridors of power Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:50:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: joy http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4236 joy Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:22:25 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4236 I hope the great majority of voters will be thoughtful and consider the range of policies of the parties, and in particluar look at where those parties seem to be heading, such as National moving extreme right. No need to wonder any longer about where the money for the universal tax cuts will come from if the Nats make the top seats. Joy I hope the great majority of voters will be thoughtful and consider the range of policies of the parties, and in particluar look at where those parties seem to be heading, such as National moving extreme right.

No need to wonder any longer about where the money for the universal tax cuts will come from if the Nats make the top seats. Joy

]]> By: icehawk http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4227 icehawk Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:45:08 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4227 Following up on bj: Tsk,tsk,tsk for Brash. I don't bother encrypting my e-mails because (let us be honest) no-one cares about me enough to try intercepting them, and I know nothing that could be called "sensitive data". But! Not encrypting and protecting politically explosive exchanges about behind-the-scenes negotiations among kingmakers looking to set up a new PM! Good grief. Their sysadmin must be weeping in frustration at his users disregard for security. I hope Brash isn't as sloppy with sensitive govt documents as he was with these e-mails. Following up on bj:

Tsk,tsk,tsk for Brash.

I don’t bother encrypting my e-mails because (let us be honest) no-one cares about me enough to try intercepting them, and I know nothing that could be called “sensitive data”.

But! Not encrypting and protecting politically explosive exchanges about behind-the-scenes negotiations among kingmakers looking to set up a new PM! Good grief. Their sysadmin must be weeping in frustration at his users disregard for security.

I hope Brash isn’t as sloppy with sensitive govt documents as he was with these e-mails.

]]> By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4212 bjchip Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:33:16 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4212 To answer Joy's question... e-mail is inherently insecure. It passes through (and may leave copies on) any number of machines before it reaches its destination. It may be cached in insecure memory. It is simply NOT secure. People need to know this. Most do. Brash should. Sensitive documents and mail CAN be encrypted. It's free, it is not trivial to set up but it is easy enough for people who aren't afraid of their computers. Brash didn't encrypt. His buddies didn't encrypt. He basically was talking on a party line (sorry!)... and it is nobody's fault but his own.... because the leading cause of this sort of breach isn't someone intercepting your mail... it's someone else sitting in front of your computer when you went out for coffee. respectfully BJ To answer Joy’s question… e-mail is inherently insecure. It passes through (and may leave copies on) any number of machines before it reaches its destination. It may be cached in insecure memory. It is simply NOT secure.

People need to know this. Most do. Brash should.

Sensitive documents and mail CAN be encrypted. It’s free, it is not trivial to set up but it is easy enough for people who aren’t afraid of their computers.

Brash didn’t encrypt. His buddies didn’t encrypt. He basically was talking on a party line (sorry!)… and it is nobody’s fault but his own…. because the leading cause of this sort of breach isn’t someone intercepting your mail… it’s someone else sitting in front of your computer when you went out for coffee.

respectfully
BJ

]]> By: ZenTiger http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4206 ZenTiger Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:23:38 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4206 stymied: At least take of the blinkers long enough to include Labour in that assessment. stymied: At least take of the blinkers long enough to include Labour in that assessment.

]]> By: mellis1 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4205 mellis1 Tue, 30 Aug 2005 05:42:48 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4205 Trevor Mallards comments didn't seem to make much difference to the election campaign for Labour, I think voters will vote on policies on election day rather than on who or whom leaked emails or made a few rash statements. If they did that then we would have no in government as the voters would not vote for anyone. Trevor Mallards comments didn’t seem to make much difference to the election campaign for Labour, I think voters will vote on policies on election day rather than on who or whom leaked emails or made a few rash statements.

If they did that then we would have no in government as the voters would not vote for anyone.

]]> By: stymied http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4198 stymied Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:39:37 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4198 I can't see the Greens ever becoming a main-stream party (well, not untli the sea level rises over wellington), but it terms of their goals it probably doesn't matter. If the Greens can make environmental policies part of the centre, rather being relagated to the hard-left then the centrist parties will take them over. Greens will be crowded out in much the same way as National is now, but they will have gone some way to achieving their goals. The difference I think is that the Greens are less interested in power for powers sake, unlike National who seem to be willing to plumb any depths to get some attention. I can’t see the Greens ever becoming a main-stream party (well, not untli the sea level rises over wellington), but it terms of their goals it probably doesn’t matter.

If the Greens can make environmental policies part of the centre, rather being relagated to the hard-left then the centrist parties will take them over. Greens will be crowded out in much the same way as National is now, but they will have gone some way to achieving their goals.

The difference I think is that the Greens are less interested in power for powers sake, unlike National who seem to be willing to plumb any depths to get some attention.

]]> By: Craig Ranapia http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4196 Craig Ranapia Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:30:28 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4196 Hey, I'm just agreeing with Anita. I don't think Cullen didn't himself any favours after the Budget constantly bitching and whining about how the cool publoc reception was all the media's fault. And it just drew out the bad news cycle when he accused a reporter of (in effect) making up a quote, only to have a recording produced later that day. Hey, I’m just agreeing with Anita. I don’t think Cullen didn’t himself any favours after the Budget constantly bitching and whining about how the cool publoc reception was all the media’s fault. And it just drew out the bad news cycle when he accused a reporter of (in effect) making up a quote, only to have a recording produced later that day.

]]> By: stymied http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4195 stymied Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:51:56 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4195 Missing the point Craig. Missing the point Craig.

]]> By: Craig Ranapia http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4194 Craig Ranapia Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:35:28 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4194 Anita: Oh, like Cullen accused a journalist of fabricating a quote until the man in question pulled out a tape recorder? Anita:

Oh, like Cullen accused a journalist of fabricating a quote until the man in question pulled out a tape recorder?

]]> By: Expat http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4192 Expat Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:56:01 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/08/30/oh-dear-2/#comment-4192 Unless the 'noble lie' (referring back to the Brash/tax cuts/strategic deficit debate) for the Greens and Labour at this election is that serious action will be taken on energy and transport policy when they are in power, but they don't want to risk losing votes by scaring all the car owning, poor insulated home-owners out there... Unless the ‘noble lie’ (referring back to the Brash/tax cuts/strategic deficit debate) for the Greens and Labour at this election is that serious action will be taken on energy and transport policy when they are in power, but they don’t want to risk losing votes by scaring all the car owning, poor insulated home-owners out there…

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