Comments on: Forming a government http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/ hopping along the corridors of power Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:23:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5395 bjchip Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:57:09 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5395 Foreshore? respectfully BJ Foreshore?

respectfully
BJ

]]> By: wizban http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5390 wizban Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:19:02 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5390 yeah I always thought that the maori party would be more closely aligned to labour than UF. Why the distancing? yeah I always thought that the maori party would be more closely aligned to labour than UF.
Why the distancing?

]]> By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5287 bjchip Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:29:19 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5287 Team, what about Labour, Greens, Progressive and Maori? On the day they may regard having a real voice in a real government as more important than letting UF call the dance. As has been pointed out, the scramble after the votes are counted is way more pragmatic than the pontifications prior to the close of polling. respectfully BJ Team, what about Labour, Greens, Progressive and Maori? On the day they may regard having a real voice in a real government as more important than letting UF call the dance. As has been pointed out, the scramble after the votes are counted is way more pragmatic than the pontifications prior to the close of polling.

respectfully
BJ

]]> By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5286 bjchip Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:24:03 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5286 Dave, he's got a point. "Confidence and Supply" is awkward, anyone have another word that can be substituted? Politically satirical stuff like this is hugely beneficial to the public image of a party that gets it together enough to sing it. respectfully BJ Dave, he’s got a point. “Confidence and Supply” is awkward, anyone have another word that can be substituted? Politically satirical stuff like this is hugely beneficial to the public image of a party that gets it together enough to sing it. respectfully BJ

]]> By: alistair http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5284 alistair Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:38:28 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5284 except if Labour/Greens get the numbers, which is still the most likely outcome. cos it's actually the voters who get to decide... not the party leaders... hallelujah (keep working on it Dave, I reckon you can turn that post into a sonnet) except if Labour/Greens get the numbers, which is still the most likely outcome.

cos it’s actually the voters who get to decide… not the party leaders… hallelujah

(keep working on it Dave, I reckon you can turn that post into a sonnet)

]]> By: dave http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5281 dave Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:42:54 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5281 Labour wont go with Act National wont go with Greens Act maynot even be there United wont go with Greens NZ First wont go into a confidence and supply agreenent with Greens or Act NZ First wont go with Greens Maori Party wont go with National Maori Party is last cab off the rank for Labour Progressives wont go with any party from the Right So that means The most open mindeed party is United Future The most closed minded is NZ First The most unwanted party is the Greens ( as four parties dont want to be in coalition with the Greens) To have stable Government there is only one option: National/United Future with confidence and supply from a minor party. Labour wont go with Act
National wont go with Greens
Act maynot even be there
United wont go with Greens
NZ First wont go into a confidence and supply agreenent with Greens or Act
NZ First wont go with Greens
Maori Party wont go with National
Maori Party is last cab off the rank for Labour
Progressives wont go with any party from the Right

So that means
The most open mindeed party is United Future
The most closed minded is NZ First
The most unwanted party is the Greens ( as four parties dont want to be in coalition with the Greens)

To have stable Government there is only one option: National/United Future with confidence and supply from a minor party.

]]> By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5266 bjchip Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:54:54 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5266 pq - wolverine is a new one... is this Winston Peters? Fitting, if it is. respectfully BJ pq - wolverine is a new one… is this Winston Peters? Fitting, if it is. respectfully BJ

]]> By: katie http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5261 katie Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:31:11 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5261 capitalists running scared yet? you lot have shot yourselves so thoroughly in both feet, you'll be trying to put up private members' bills to repeal gun licensing laws so that you can't possibly ever do that again.;-) meanwhile, those of us with regular campaign methods are hearing lots of young people suggest they will vote this time; I submit that there are more 18-25 yr olds in the country than Exclusive Bretheren, and I'd much rather see the young people feeling empowered enough to make a difference!!! capitalists running scared yet?

you lot have shot yourselves so thoroughly in both feet, you’ll be trying to put up private members’ bills to repeal gun licensing laws so that you can’t possibly ever do that again.;-)

meanwhile, those of us with regular campaign methods are hearing lots of young people suggest they will vote this time; I submit that there are more 18-25 yr olds in the country than Exclusive Bretheren, and I’d much rather see the young people feeling empowered enough to make a difference!!!

]]> By: peterquixote http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5243 peterquixote Tue, 13 Sep 2005 04:23:07 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5243 Fwwog, we have advised Bwash to ring the feminist horrid Governor general sometime saturday afternoon to announcer he can form Government, no person in their rigth mind wait around for the wolverine, Fwwog, we have advised Bwash to ring the feminist horrid Governor general sometime saturday afternoon to announcer he can form Government,
no person in their rigth mind wait around for the wolverine,

]]> By: Edge http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5231 Edge Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:50:18 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/13/forming-a-government/#comment-5231 "Whatever some in United and NZ First might be saying, there is no presumption - constitutional or otherwise - that the single party with the most votes has the first dibs on forming the next government." Actually Frog, there is a presumption, however misplaced, that the largest party gets first dibs. The media, you and I may not buy into it, but that doesn't mean most New Zealanders don't, particularly after the statements of Dunne and Peters. “Whatever some in United and NZ First might be saying, there is no presumption - constitutional or otherwise - that the single party with the most votes has the first dibs on forming the next government.”

Actually Frog, there is a presumption, however misplaced, that the largest party gets first dibs. The media, you and I may not buy into it, but that doesn’t mean most New Zealanders don’t, particularly after the statements of Dunne and Peters.

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