Are you serious?!! Not only is the first sentence blatantly untrue and furthermore based on some inane fantasy, the use of the term ‘third world peasants’ makes me nauseous!

This may be why so many prefer to hide under the guise of ‘oh, everything’s okay, don’t want to make life harder for myself, why bother changing my lifestyle’ etc. It’s easy and immature to convince oneself and others that change is too scary to even contemplate.

As for the US & Europe doing nothing - that seems to be another fictional statement. Changes are happening slowly, and IMHO it’s better to have slow change than none at all. NZ needs to wake up and get on the sustainable bandwagon now! There is no time to wait until the results are in from other nations and then make radical decisions!

NZ Economy means little if there is no high or low ground to speak of.

“Tackling carbon emissions would require us to become sustainable- in the manner of thirld world peasants”

Thats rubbish. Eliminating carbon emissions would possibly require us to live peasants.

Half of our economy runs explicitly ineffieiently. The other half is reliant on a “technology fix” which - as we develop it - may just cement us as leaders in global agricultural IP.

If a price on carbon is placed soon I’d call that (at the very least) half of our economy that can make some pretty basic “carbon gains”.

Mike

“that the ideas from the Greens will have a voice and will be heard loud and clear.”

Jeanette Fitzsimons is an impressive advocate whose words are reaching people that I never thought would listen (nor would acknowledge her expertise.)

the people whom tend to make up the greens have had such “topics” in their worlds and thinking for , well , bloody ages ,
and we may see the contrast when looking for substance , in policy and attitude .
i think we will see ( especially now there exists a chance of implementation ) that the ideas from the greens will have a voice and will be heard loud and clear

Tackling carbon emissions would require us to become sustainable- in the manner of thirld world peasants i.e. no cars, no flights, no cattle, significantly less electricity, and so on. And if the US, Europe, China do nothing (as per current trends) then we will have impoverished ourselves in vain. Moral high ground means little if NZ economy is in poor shape.

IMHO, better start planning those seawalls. The pain of trying to avoid climate change would be worse than climate change itself.

If anyone is interested, this page is mentioned in the source-code of the Bluegreens site but not linked to.

It does all feel a bit empty though–all talk.

That’s a mean looking Pukeko!