That post is worth full marks!

nteresting how some people like Big Bruv automatically assume that everyone who criticises the policies of the US government is a hater of America and all things American. If I criticise the Australian government, nobody accuses me of hating Australians; if I criticise the Italian government, nobody accuses me of hating Italians; if I criticise the New Zealand government, nobody accuses me of hating New Zealanders. Funny, that principle only seems to apply with the US and Israel.
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How about the US as the face of Western power and influence?
Looking from the outside, there doesn’t seem to be much reason to justify the protests. People will look at the characters in the plot and draw their own conclusions.
JH

>I know this is slightly off topic but I could not help but laugh this evening when watching the news, there was a story about Sir Ed retuning to the ice for what will most likely be the last time, sadly he is being accompanied by Helen Klarke and a few of her ministers…the ironic thing for me was that here is she (a self admitted American hater) traveling down to the ice in an American military plane.
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Interesting how some people like Big Bruv automatically assume that everyone who criticises the policies of the US government is a hater of America and all things American. If I criticise the Australian government, nobody accuses me of hating Australians; if I criticise the Italian government, nobody accuses me of hating Italians; if I criticise the New Zealand government, nobody accuses me of hating New Zealanders. Funny, that principle only seems to apply with the US and Israel.

Comets both portend and foretell. Perhaps a cogent reminder for all of us.

For those for whom the GREENS apparent anti-capitalist agenda is a bridge to far, consider C&C supporter

“The economy is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the environment” / Archbishop of Canterbury

If the Earth doesn’t belong to all of us, who does it belong to?
/Blair

“Whatever!”

You have misunderstood the tone of my writing and have obviously assumed I was trying to be “one up” on you. (That is probably what you are used to.)

However, as you didn’t take the time to reread what I wrote to check if that was the case (or at least give me the benefit of the doubt) before “launching forth”, it is unlikely that I will take the time to answer you in future.

This is a Green website. When you are on it (as a guest) your contributions would be more effective if you heeded the very old saying “When in Rome do as the Romans do.”

We are interested in the points of view of others, and I am GENUINELY CONCERNED that people who are obviously interested are not aware of the very serious dangers that are currently facing life on this Planet.

Please do one thing for yourself. Open the webaddress I gave you and read the article as a “human being”, whatever your political leanings. Think about it and discuss its contents with a few other people.

Bear in mind that we all SHARE this Planet and it is a “closed system”. Whatever any one person does to damage that system ends up affecting all life on the Planet. Also bear in mind that political ideas come and go, money is a tool and it can become worthless.

If you did take the time to do this … then I would be interested in continuing a dialogue with you.

Best wishes
eredwen

I would regard anybody who is arrogant enough to claim that their views are representative of the ENTIRE NZ population as ignorant of that facts or lacking in intelligence or humanity.

Bur seriously, you cannot win every argument by laying claim to the moral high ground if your opponent does not share those same views, all that shows is an inability to argue your point, if you have to resort to name calling then I suspect your argument is not very strong.

As for Klarke going to the ice, Sir Ed would not have had much of a choice really, she (Klarke) was always going to go along as it is a great way to get herslf some publicity.

Following on from the above … I would regard anyone who doesn’t “hate” the behaviour of the current American Administration, in regard to the Middle East in particular, as either ignorant of the facts (not at all surprising given the sad state of our “news” media these days!) or lacking in intelligence or “humanity”.

(In your case, BB I do hope it is the first of those options!)

Try reading this carefully and see how you react:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17206.htm

and there is lots more …

e

The “sadly” bit is supposed to be an insult I suspect?

I get your “point”, but by making it you expose your ignorance.

For your information:
1. Helen Clark has excellent credentials in the mountain/ice community. She has done the hard work and is now a competent climber in her own right. Ed Hillary would be very happy to have her in the same Party.
2. The Americans have used Christchurch as their base for Antarctic flights for a long time now. The “military” aspect of the planes that fly to Antarctica has nothing to do with combat, or they would not be flying to Antarctica. (Check the status of that continent!)

eredwen = mountain woman (and yes, I do know Ed Hillary.)