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	<title>Comments on: You can&#8217;t fool all the people all the time</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: preludefan</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-25999</link>
		<dc:creator>preludefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-25999</guid>
		<description>good points made there,however, it should be noted that adrienne gin is a compulsive liar and her childish and immature comments should be ignored by the common mature adult.

and to brian gubbs comment; banning remuera tractors is indeed important,not just on the clean green side of things but for road safety- most of the morons who drive these suvs (not refering to off road hobbyists or farmers who drive land cruisers) think they are invincible and worst off all do not care less about the honda civic they are about to crush as a result  of their incompetance.
and another point i wish to make here is that and suv is no safer for the occupants than a normal car with a good saftey rating,however they are FAR more dangerous to other vehicles occupants,cyclists and pedestrians alike.


and as far as banning the crown limos are concerned- im all for it and someone mentined that i they banned limos then they would just use corporate cabs- good point - the australian limos use the same gas guzzling engines as the corporate cabs, these days, a two litre engine is more than enough for a sedan- its time they banned large engines cars in the citys,unless they can reduce the emissions on the big aussie sixes to that of a smaller car (which is possible with small modifications)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good points made there,however, it should be noted that adrienne gin is a compulsive liar and her childish and immature comments should be ignored by the common mature adult.</p>
<p>and to brian gubbs comment; banning remuera tractors is indeed important,not just on the clean green side of things but for road safety- most of the morons who drive these suvs (not refering to off road hobbyists or farmers who drive land cruisers) think they are invincible and worst off all do not care less about the honda civic they are about to crush as a result  of their incompetance.<br />
and another point i wish to make here is that and suv is no safer for the occupants than a normal car with a good saftey rating,however they are FAR more dangerous to other vehicles occupants,cyclists and pedestrians alike.</p>
<p>and as far as banning the crown limos are concerned- im all for it and someone mentined that i they banned limos then they would just use corporate cabs- good point - the australian limos use the same gas guzzling engines as the corporate cabs, these days, a two litre engine is more than enough for a sedan- its time they banned large engines cars in the citys,unless they can reduce the emissions on the big aussie sixes to that of a smaller car (which is possible with small modifications)</p>
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		<title>By: PeterExitsLeft</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23793</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterExitsLeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23793</guid>
		<description>Stuey,

tinyurl.com/36t2t3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuey,</p>
<p>tinyurl.com/36t2t3</p>
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		<title>By: PeterExitsLeft</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23792</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterExitsLeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23792</guid>
		<description>stuey

http://tinyurl.com/36t2t3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stuey</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/36t2t3" >http://tinyurl.com/36t2t3</a></p>
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		<title>By: libertyscott</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23791</link>
		<dc:creator>libertyscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23791</guid>
		<description>"If we averaged out the total energy used by all the members of the Green Party including our MPs, I know that, per capita, our energy use would be considerably less than that of any other Political Party in Aotearoa/NZ … to put it mildly! "

How do you KNOW this?  This is pure posturing, there is probably a case for Libertarianz and the Maori Party to claim the same at least.  Wishful thinking more like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If we averaged out the total energy used by all the members of the Green Party including our MPs, I know that, per capita, our energy use would be considerably less than that of any other Political Party in Aotearoa/NZ … to put it mildly! &#8221;</p>
<p>How do you KNOW this?  This is pure posturing, there is probably a case for Libertarianz and the Maori Party to claim the same at least.  Wishful thinking more like it.</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23781</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23781</guid>
		<description>go on people..!

take up zens' offer and go over to sir humphrys..

'barking' lucyna has started up one her 'religous threads'..(a weekly event..and always good for the odd jaw-dropping 'huh..?"..or laugh..)

(think extreme rightwing fundamentalist reactionary catholicism..(polish branch..whoar..!..her house is probably festooned with those hearts with thorns around them..and the like..)

and there has been some major confusion over different timezones..leading to wild-eyed accusations of left-wing-media-conspiracies..

(i mean ..seriously..these people take themselves very seriously..and are pompous to boot..(and (involuntarily) are feckin' funny..!

their pomposity is why humour is so effective against them..

go over there and laugh at them...

(they can't stand it..!..they take themselves and their loopy ideas very very seriously...and will brook no scorn/p*ss-taking..

they..and their acolytes..will turn on you like mad dogs..(eh zen..?..)

you will also get such added delights as big bruv ..with his mask off..really letting loose with how he feels about the likes of you greens he has been pretending to talk to/trolling..whoar..!..(again..!..)

be warned..!..it's ugly..eh..?

and don't be rude or insulting..

just use humour/logic to dismantle their warped arguments..

(it's sorta like a vegan blood-sport..eh..?

rightie-baiting..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go on people..!</p>
<p>take up zens&#8217; offer and go over to sir humphrys..</p>
<p>&#8216;barking&#8217; lucyna has started up one her &#8216;religous threads&#8217;..(a weekly event..and always good for the odd jaw-dropping &#8216;huh..?&#8221;..or laugh..)</p>
<p>(think extreme rightwing fundamentalist reactionary catholicism..(polish branch..whoar..!..her house is probably festooned with those hearts with thorns around them..and the like..)</p>
<p>and there has been some major confusion over different timezones..leading to wild-eyed accusations of left-wing-media-conspiracies..</p>
<p>(i mean ..seriously..these people take themselves very seriously..and are pompous to boot..(and (involuntarily) are feckin&#8217; funny..!</p>
<p>their pomposity is why humour is so effective against them..</p>
<p>go over there and laugh at them&#8230;</p>
<p>(they can&#8217;t stand it..!..they take themselves and their loopy ideas very very seriously&#8230;and will brook no scorn/p*ss-taking..</p>
<p>they..and their acolytes..will turn on you like mad dogs..(eh zen..?..)</p>
<p>you will also get such added delights as big bruv ..with his mask off..really letting loose with how he feels about the likes of you greens he has been pretending to talk to/trolling..whoar..!..(again..!..)</p>
<p>be warned..!..it&#8217;s ugly..eh..?</p>
<p>and don&#8217;t be rude or insulting..</p>
<p>just use humour/logic to dismantle their warped arguments..</p>
<p>(it&#8217;s sorta like a vegan blood-sport..eh..?</p>
<p>rightie-baiting..)</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23779</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23779</guid>
		<description>Peter, when did Jeanette ever say that people shouldn't fly? I agree that would be hypocrisy if she did, but she has never to my knowledge said anything of the sort. Prove me wrong!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, when did Jeanette ever say that people shouldn&#8217;t fly? I agree that would be hypocrisy if she did, but she has never to my knowledge said anything of the sort. Prove me wrong!</p>
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		<title>By: PeterExitsLeft</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23773</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterExitsLeft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23773</guid>
		<description>&#62;&#62;farrar runs ongoing cebnsorship

He leaves hostile, contrary views, his blog is full of such left/right debates. Daily. 

I dare say he gets rid of the odd nonsensical...! illegible.....rambling (!) nonsense for sake of clarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;farrar runs ongoing cebnsorship</p>
<p>He leaves hostile, contrary views, his blog is full of such left/right debates. Daily. </p>
<p>I dare say he gets rid of the odd nonsensical&#8230;! illegible&#8230;..rambling (!) nonsense for sake of clarity.</p>
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		<title>By: ZenTiger</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23770</link>
		<dc:creator>ZenTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23770</guid>
		<description>I have made no demands Phil.  You were banned at Sir Humphreys for your constantly rude and insulting manner.  I'll leave it to readers at Frogblog to decide on the truth of that statement.

With respect to all here, personal attacks invite a response in defense.  That must be boring for the vast majority of readers.  

I suggest it would be more productive to leave the comment moderation issues to Frog, and focus on the topics offered for discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made no demands Phil.  You were banned at Sir Humphreys for your constantly rude and insulting manner.  I&#8217;ll leave it to readers at Frogblog to decide on the truth of that statement.</p>
<p>With respect to all here, personal attacks invite a response in defense.  That must be boring for the vast majority of readers.  </p>
<p>I suggest it would be more productive to leave the comment moderation issues to Frog, and focus on the topics offered for discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23765</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23765</guid>
		<description>pel said.
."..I think it is very telling that kiwiblog, and other right leaning blogs, allow and encourage opposing viewpoints, and do not attempt to censor free speech.."

excuse me..!..

farrar runs ongoing cebnsorship..

and zen..who is here demanding a forum.(!)...is a principal in sir humphrys..a rightwing blog collective..

where..if you should dare to question their 'givens'..you are met with a hail of abuse..and threats of banning..

should you demur..you are banned..

so..really..pel..once again you are shown to be talking a 'crock'..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pel said.<br />
.&#8221;..I think it is very telling that kiwiblog, and other right leaning blogs, allow and encourage opposing viewpoints, and do not attempt to censor free speech..&#8221;</p>
<p>excuse me..!..</p>
<p>farrar runs ongoing cebnsorship..</p>
<p>and zen..who is here demanding a forum.(!)&#8230;is a principal in sir humphrys..a rightwing blog collective..</p>
<p>where..if you should dare to question their &#8216;givens&#8217;..you are met with a hail of abuse..and threats of banning..</p>
<p>should you demur..you are banned..</p>
<p>so..really..pel..once again you are shown to be talking a &#8216;crock&#8217;..eh..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23757</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/17/you-cant-fool-all-the-people-all-the-time/#comment-23757</guid>
		<description>Stuey

I have no intention of getting out of the Hummer as I do not beleive that global warming is man made, however your co leader does, it is her that should be setting the example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuey</p>
<p>I have no intention of getting out of the Hummer as I do not beleive that global warming is man made, however your co leader does, it is her that should be setting the example.</p>
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