Comments on: Sour grapes http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/ hopping along the corridors of power Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:56:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Kevyn http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-40062 Kevyn Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:44:58 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-40062 Maggie’s actions in removing the UK coal industry were an act of treasonous proportions? Maybe they should give her a gong for slowing climate change, even if she was the original accidental environmentalist. Maggie’s actions in removing the UK coal industry were an act of treasonous proportions? Maybe they should give her a gong for slowing climate change, even if she was the original accidental environmentalist.

]]> By: samiam http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39984 samiam Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:49:13 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39984 That woman cop who heroically 'Jumped ship' gets the 'Hillary Clinton courage under Bosnian fire' award too! That woman cop who heroically ‘Jumped ship’ gets the ‘Hillary Clinton courage under Bosnian fire’ award too!

]]> By: dbuckley http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39976 dbuckley Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:16:57 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39976 This is the second time in about as many weeks that Christchurch has found itself without police cover. I'm not saying the deployments were wrong <i>per se</i>, but the undeniable truth remains that when police were needed, there were none there to be had. And now on to Greenpeace... they say (in the article linked to above by McTap) that "there is no future in coal"; well, that depends on what you mean by "the future"; for values of "the future" measured in small numbers of decades, its pretty hard to argue anything other than coal having a very bright future. We (as in humankind) actually have some, we know how to make it do useful things. No-one connects that replacing a GLS lamp with a CFL lamp reduces coal burned, so there is no real drive for change. Lets burn that coal. I just wonder if the UK will ever decide that Maggie's actions in removing the UK coal industry were an act of treasonous proportions. But I suspect not, now that they're going gung ho for more nukes... This is the second time in about as many weeks that Christchurch has found itself without police cover. I’m not saying the deployments were wrong per se, but the undeniable truth remains that when police were needed, there were none there to be had.

And now on to Greenpeace… they say (in the article linked to above by McTap) that “there is no future in coal”; well, that depends on what you mean by “the future”; for values of “the future” measured in small numbers of decades, its pretty hard to argue anything other than coal having a very bright future. We (as in humankind) actually have some, we know how to make it do useful things. No-one connects that replacing a GLS lamp with a CFL lamp reduces coal burned, so there is no real drive for change. Lets burn that coal.

I just wonder if the UK will ever decide that Maggie’s actions in removing the UK coal industry were an act of treasonous proportions. But I suspect not, now that they’re going gung ho for more nukes…

]]> By: McTap http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39952 McTap Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:49:45 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39952 That fairfax story speaks volumes about the lens which they wish people to see the world. Here is the story from Greenpeace http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/ship-tour/the-aftermath/ Problem is they are succeeding in normalising this excessive police response to direct action, and marginalising anyone protesting the status quo. We need to get out and active more to challenge this, or it is going to get harder. That fairfax story speaks volumes about the lens which they wish people to see the world. Here is the story from Greenpeace http://weblog.greenpeace.org.nz/ship-tour/the-aftermath/

Problem is they are succeeding in normalising this excessive police response to direct action, and marginalising anyone protesting the status quo.

We need to get out and active more to challenge this, or it is going to get harder.

]]> By: Kevyn http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39920 Kevyn Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:00:33 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39920 What else were the police to do when there were pirates running amok in Lyttleton Harbour? Didn't you notice that the lone constable was on traffic duty. What was he doing in Cashel Mall in the first place. Surely there must have been one or two police in that police skyscraper across the bridge from the mall? What else were the police to do when there were pirates running amok in Lyttleton Harbour?

Didn’t you notice that the lone constable was on traffic duty. What was he doing in Cashel Mall in the first place. Surely there must have been one or two police in that police skyscraper across the bridge from the mall?

]]> By: Sam Buchanan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39913 Sam Buchanan Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:04:02 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/03/26/sour-grapes/#comment-39913 30 police to deal with six protestors does seem a bit silly, but police have often tended to prioritise the policing of protests in recent years. Once we had a dozen police and a paddy wagon for a handful of people doing anti-GE street theatre. 30 police to deal with six protestors does seem a bit silly, but police have often tended to prioritise the policing of protests in recent years. Once we had a dozen police and a paddy wagon for a handful of people doing anti-GE street theatre.

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