Comments on: A one cow economy http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/ hopping along the corridors of power Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:28:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: treesoftomorrow http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43256 treesoftomorrow Wed, 14 May 2008 20:45:05 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43256 some biofuels are bad. fossil fuels will run out... some biofuels are bad. fossil fuels will run out…

]]> By: treesoftomorrow http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43255 treesoftomorrow Wed, 14 May 2008 20:44:12 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43255 the problem with that you said is it is all opinion, no facts or references. ----------------------- dbuckley Says: May 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pm The problem with biofuels is that they are in part and in theory good, and partly and mostly in practice bad. It would be good if we could use algae to make the biofuels, but we don’t, we use crops. This is the bad bit. But… the Green party have this misconception that the subtleties of that argument can be explained to the general public, whereas in rality it cant. The message needs to be readjusted to account for world realities. Here it is: BIOFUELS ARE BAD. Go with it. the problem with that you said is it is all opinion, no facts or references.

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dbuckley Says:

May 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
The problem with biofuels is that they are in part and in theory good, and partly and mostly in practice bad. It would be good if we could use algae to make the biofuels, but we don’t, we use crops. This is the bad bit.

But… the Green party have this misconception that the subtleties of that argument can be explained to the general public, whereas in rality it cant. The message needs to be readjusted to account for world realities.

Here it is: BIOFUELS ARE BAD.

Go with it.

]]> By: treesoftomorrow http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43254 treesoftomorrow Wed, 14 May 2008 20:43:17 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43254 i wonder if this closure is linked with the planned fonterra style merge craig norgate is working on for the meat industries i wonder if this closure is linked with the planned fonterra style merge craig norgate is working on for the meat industries

]]> By: kahikatea http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43161 kahikatea Wed, 14 May 2008 05:00:38 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43161 # kahikatea Says: May 13th, 2008 at 7:45 pm > Of course, most people who wanted to promote biofuels for their own profit have used green-sounding arguments, because they figured it would help convince people. an interesting historical parallel - Adolf Hitler often said the Third Reich was about bringing peace to Europe, because he figured it would get him more support. # kahikatea Says:
May 13th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

> Of course, most people who wanted to promote biofuels for their own profit have used green-sounding arguments, because they figured it would help convince people.

an interesting historical parallel - Adolf Hitler often said the Third Reich was about bringing peace to Europe, because he figured it would get him more support.

]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43147 StephenR Wed, 14 May 2008 02:57:00 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43147 Then it wouldn't be too hard to say that they're 'rabidly anti-science luddites' because they ' aren't ' open to the advances offered by tallow, woodchips, algae, crop waste and whatever the other one is... Then it wouldn’t be too hard to say that they’re ‘rabidly anti-science luddites’ because they ‘ aren’t ‘ open to the advances offered by tallow, woodchips, algae, crop waste and whatever the other one is…

]]> By: dbuckley http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43146 dbuckley Wed, 14 May 2008 02:52:19 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43146 The problem with biofuels is that they are in part and in theory good, and partly and mostly in practice bad. It would be good if we could use algae to make the biofuels, but we don't, we use crops. This is the bad bit. But... the Green party have this misconception that the subtleties of that argument can be explained to the general public, whereas in rality it cant. The message needs to be readjusted to account for world realities. Here it is: BIOFUELS ARE BAD. Go with it. The problem with biofuels is that they are in part and in theory good, and partly and mostly in practice bad. It would be good if we could use algae to make the biofuels, but we don’t, we use crops. This is the bad bit.

But… the Green party have this misconception that the subtleties of that argument can be explained to the general public, whereas in rality it cant. The message needs to be readjusted to account for world realities.

Here it is: BIOFUELS ARE BAD.

Go with it.

]]> By: kahikatea http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43087 kahikatea Tue, 13 May 2008 07:45:29 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43087 Of course, most people who wanted to promote biofuels for their own profit have used green-sounding arguments, because they figured it would help convince people. Of course, most people who wanted to promote biofuels for their own profit have used green-sounding arguments, because they figured it would help convince people.

]]> By: turnip28 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43065 turnip28 Tue, 13 May 2008 03:04:37 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43065 Panda what are you talking about. biofuels are being pushed in the US by the corn lobby. BTW corn to biofuel isn't even energy positive. Panda what are you talking about. biofuels are being pushed in the US by the corn lobby.

BTW corn to biofuel isn’t even energy positive.

]]> By: toad http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43055 toad Tue, 13 May 2008 01:15:33 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43055 And something to do with the War for Oil not going quite as well as they would have liked too, I suspect. And something to do with the War for Oil not going quite as well as they would have liked too, I suspect.

]]> By: StephenR http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43054 StephenR Tue, 13 May 2008 01:09:34 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/05/13/a-one-cow-economy/#comment-43054 Like I said, corn lobby. And as a way to reduce dependence on imported oil, as they have being talking about since, hmm, round 2001? It might have something to do with that? Like I said, corn lobby. And as a way to reduce dependence on imported oil, as they have being talking about since, hmm, round 2001? It might have something to do with that?

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